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    Okay i have decided to create a temporary transport discussion thread, because there is so many projects that deserve attention.

    But once our forum gets bigger and we get more members, then ill ask admin if we can have a NZ transport projects & discussion subforum.

    post away people!!
    never say never...

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    Toll dodgers set off alarm bells

    Thursday October 19, 2006
    By Mathew Dearnaley

    Onehunga residents fear airport traffic may spill through their streets to avoid a toll Transit is proposing for what is now a free motorway route beside Manukau Harbour.

    Transit has decided against tolling Mangere Bridge or a duplicate four-lane harbour crossing it wants to open in time for the 2011 Rugby World Cup to ease traffic flows to and from the airport.

    That is because motorists would otherwise not have a feasible free alternative route, which transport legislation requires to be available before the Government can approve any tolling scheme.

    But the agency has nominated the 2km section of the Southwestern Motorway along Onehunga Bay for the highest toll out of seven charging points it envisages for the 48km western ring route it is developing between Manukau and Albany.

    Motorists could expect to pay a $1.50 toll (plus annual inflation adjustments) each time they cross the bay in peak periods, $1 at other times of the day and at weekends, and 75c at night.

    Transit suggests motorists not willing to pay a toll could join or turn off the motorway at a proposed new interchange at Onehunga, and travel to or from central Auckland through that suburb and via Mt Albert Rd.

    That would mean a deviation from the current route to or from the airport for many Aucklanders, via motorway ramps at Queenstown Rd.

    Transit intends widening the motorway across Onehunga Bay to three lanes and will argue that it is integral to new sections of the western ring route such as the 4km extension it is building through Mt Roskill.

    It suggests that motorists using a future link through Waterview and then the Northwestern Motorway into downtown Auckland will cut 15 to 20 minutes off their airport travel times, for tolls amounting to $3.50c at three charging points.

    But taxi driver Murray Reid says that route will be 6km longer than the one via Queenstown Rd (an extra $14 on the meter even before counting tolls) and he wondered yesterday how so much time could be shaved from a trip which now takes him 40 minutes.

    He agreed the trip times could vary between 30 minutes and 60 minutes on a bad day, but questioned the reliability of travel along the frequently-congested Northwestern Motorway.

    Maungakiekie Community Board deputy chairman Geoff Abbott expressed concern about both the potential visible impact of an overhead tolling gantry on Onehunga Bay and on traffic flows through local streets if large numbers of motorists wanted to avoid the proposed road charge.

    Mangere Bridge Residents and Ratepayers Association president Roger Baldwin said he crossed Onehunga Bay up to six times a day but would certainly head inland through suburban streets rather than face a toll.

    Transit's transport planning general manager, Wayne McDonald, said the agency would adjust tolls to levels which would prove attractive to motorists and minimise "rat-running" along alternative routes.

    He said that if the ring route was not tolled, it would rapidly become as congested as State Highway One.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectid=10406582
    never say never...

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    • #3
      Aucklandman has a really fab website he built at Auckland Motorways.

      Transit NZ has an online responce form for commenting on the toll proposals, as this is a requirment in legislation. I've responded a couple of days ago, and did mention my concerns with possible rat runners in Onehunga.

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      • #4
        Went for a spin today along the new auxillary lane - CMJ west to Western Springs. Its specifically designed to provide Southern Motorway/Western Motorway connection a dedicated lane as far as Western Springs offramp.

        Heres a pic from Aucklandmans website.


        I took a video here with my cell.
        Last edited by kane007; 22nd October 2006, 13:46.

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        • #5
          looks good
          never say never...

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          • #6
            any metro / underground network pics??
            photos from subways??

            would be quite cool

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            • #7
              Originally posted by meow View Post
              any metro / underground network pics??
              photos from subways??

              would be quite cool
              Auckland's rail is nearly entirely up on the surface. Britomart, Aucklands only underground station at the moment - though there are plans for atleast another one (New Lynn) - is at the moment a terminus. Plans are for post 2016 making it one of 4 underground transit stations for the underground inner city loop.

              Will try and dig up some pics.

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              • #8
                Here we go.

                Britomart








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                • #9

                  this is the coolest metro station ive ever seen

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                      Work has begun on New Zealand's first cable-stayed traffic bridge, at Flat Bush in Manukau. The sod turning for the new Ormiston Road bridge was held today, with Mayor Sir Barry Curtis turning the first sod. The bridge will become a landmark entrance to the Flat Bush town centre. Flat Bush is currently mostly green fields but is set to become the largest urban development in the country over the next five years.

                      Many of the best-known bridges around the world are cable-stayed, such as San Francisco's Golden Gate bridge.

                      Twenty cables will support the Ormiston Road bridge, with each made up of between 78 and 144 seven mm wires grouped inside a stay pipe.

                      Located in the middle of Barry Curtis Park and at the entrance to the town centre, the bridge will provide a dramatic entrance to Flat Bush. It has been designed to lift the road above the 100 year flood plain and allow access underneath it through Barry Curtis Park. Ormiston Road is being upgraded to four lanes of traffic with signalised intersections at both the town centre and Chapel Road.

                      Designed by Beca Infrastructure Ltd and Moller Architects, the new 70 metre long steel box girder bridge will be suspended from concrete pylons 46 metres high. Measuring 27 metres across, it will feature four traffic lanes, two cycle lanes and footpaths on both sides, providing a crossing point over Ormiston Road for pedestrians.

                      The $12.75 million Ormiston road upgrade and bridge construction project is jointly funded by Manukau City Council and Land Transport New Zealand.

                      Construction of the bridge is expected to be complete by February 2008, when Ormiston Road will reopen. Manukau Mayor Sir Barry Curtis believes the striking design of the bridge will lead to it becoming a city icon.

                      Much of the area designated for development at Flat Bush is still green fields but that is soon to change. "There's a hive of activity around Flat Bush at the moment, with construction of the bridge, earthworks for Barry Curtis Park and the recent opening of the wetlands playground.

                      "The bridge project is a crucial part of the infrastructure the council is putting in. There are extensive roading, pedestrian and cycling improvements underway, and that that will result in significant benefits for all road users in the area."

                      About Flat Bush

                      Covering 1700 hectares, and with 15,000 homes scheduled to be built, Flat Bush is New Zealand's largest planned development. Within seven years Flat Bush will be home to more than 40,000 people.

                      The development will include a new town centre with retail, office and community facilities, a 94 hectare park catering for a range of sporting and recreation needs, a range of housing options, up to seven new schools including a new secondary school, cycle and pedestrian friendly streets, and access to public transport services. At least one quarter of the area will remain as parks and other green open space.

                      Manukau City Council is guiding the overall design and development of Flat Bush to ensure that people, places and the environment are given as much emphasis as the economic considerations that drive private development.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kane007
                        that is one groovy station
                        never say never...

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                        • #13
                          Why are nearly half the motorways outside of Auckland, especially in Christchurch, single-laned?
                          [FONT="Arial Black"]Townsville - Australia's Tropical City[/FONT]

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                          • #14
                            That's because the 21st Century ends at South Auckland's Bombay Hills, ranges through the 20th Century half way to Hamilton and then further degenerates into the 19th Century there on!

                            No, not really. Population densities just don't support the need for multilane freeways through most of the country - the exceptions being the 6 main centres.

                            Anyway, only in Auckland will you get 4 or 5 lane motor(free)ways.

                            Some updated pics of the Auckland's CMJ (spaghetti junction) - which by the way is now fully connected.

















                            And this older transit provided pic, is now completed. The Left CBD bound lanes are 5 and the right West bound lanes are 4.

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                            • #15
                              A view from the Northwestern Motorway connecting into the CMJ @ 2007/02/03.

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