BRISBANE» MASS TRANSIT - Thread

[sam]

Originally Posted by spider

This type of attitude strikes me as quite banal and - pompous

hubris, banal, pompous? I wasnt claiming to be one of those experts to consult. It was a generalisation. My point was that the two experts are academics, a voice from private sector may have added extra credence. Perhaps they may practice and consult to private sector anyway - i dont know. As i said it was just a generalisation from my personal experience - when i moved from academia to government and then to private sector i noticed a big difference between them in terms of what was deemed important and relevant.

[SoulVision]

Originally Posted by Marty_

Following a bit of research on this, the government has done a fair bit of planning on the CBD metro already. The preferred option (taken straight from the pre-feasability report with station names added by me) is this one:



In my opinion, this would be an incredible outcome if built.

Very Interesting! I think this one would definitely run better, also having the CBD 1 & 2 as a central changeover station. Thanks for that Marty.

[SoulVision]

There could easily be a mix of both in the next few decades.

No trams as Bligh looks underground
TONY MOORE | Brisbane Times
November 19, 2009 - 1:52PM

Queensland Premier Anna Bligh has finally ruled out any return of trams in Brisbane's CBD, saying underground rail is the way to go.

Speaking at a business luncheon this afternoon, Ms Bligh said a massive investment in heavy rail was a better solution for Brisbane's struggling public transport network.

"There have been many discussions about a return of trams and light rail to our city streets," she said.

"But outside of our busways, which were designed to accommodate light rail if needed, the time for trams in the CBD is over.

"The future of rail planning for the centre of the city is underground."

Ms Bligh said the proposed route for Brisbane's underground rail network would be announced in the new year.

But she warned the $8 billion first stage would be unable to go ahead without Federal Government funding.

"It's almost impossible for a state government to deliver a project of this size and scale alone," she said.

Ms Bligh is speaking at the Leadership Queensland Tourism and Transport Forum at the Brisbane Convention and Exhibition Centre.

More to come...

[Marty_]

I was worried for a bit that they had decided against it. This is music to my ears.

[KJBrissy]

It is actually a 3rd underground line, and this time a separate Metro!!!

About figgen time!!! Although I wish UQ was included. Why do they never include UQ????





Premier and Minister for the Arts
The Honourable Anna Bligh
19/11/2009

Underground is the future for Brisbane transport network

The State Government has unveiled sweeping plans to modernise Brisbane's public transport network - including an underground rail network to be built under the city over the next two decades - to help the south-east corner cope with unprecedented inner-city population growth.
Speaking at today's Leadership Queensland conference in Brisbane, Premier Anna Bligh said it was essential plans were fast-tracked to rethink the state capital's transport network as Queensland geared up for massive growth, including a doubling of the population over the next 50 years.
Ms Bligh said those plans included an international-standard underground metro rail network similar to the London tube and the Paris Metro.
She said the critical short term step in the new public transport plan was delivering the first, $8 billion stage of Brisbane's Cross Cross River Rail, a vital piece of infrastructure for the whole region that will unlock suburban heavy rail expansion.
"It's a simple formula - more people means more cars on the road," Ms Bligh said.
"Every hour of every day 12 more people call Queensland home.
"Every day there are 920 000 trips to the inner city - in 20 years, that will spike to more than two million trips a day and if you consider that today 80 per cent of all travel is by car, these are figures we cannot ignore.
"By 2016 our passenger rail network will be at capacity.
"Every single train from Brisbane's south must cross the Merivale Bridge to enter the city. Without a second river crossing, not a single extra service from Beenleigh, the Gold Coast, Cleveland or future cities like Springfield will be able to enter the city.
"Cross River Rail is about increasing capacity at the heart of the network to break what will be a bottleneck. The feasibility study into Cross River Rail is well underway. Next year, we will release the proposed route for consultation and an Environmental Impact Statement.
"If we want to build a modern Queensland, this is a must do."
Ms Bligh said over the next 25 years, the population in the inner ring - the five kilometre area surrounding the CBD - will grow by about 50 per cent or an extra 90 000 residents.
At the same time, the number of workers who will need to enter the city each day will double from 200,000 to 400 000.
"It's almost impossible to build more road capacity into the CBD, so we must look at other options.
"I realise there have been discussions about a return of trams and light rail to our city streets, but outside of our Busways, which were designed to accommodate light rail if needed, the time for trams in the CBD is over.
"That means we need to look outside the square and under the earth - the future of rail planning for the centre of the city is underground.
"That's why along with plans to boost to heavy rail capacity, we also need to start planning for an underground metro system, linking Toowong, West End, the City, Newstead, Bowen Hills, Bulimba and Hamilton North Shore.
"When you're staring down the barrel of strong and persistent growth, the forecasts contain information we simply cannot ignore.
"By 2030, the south-east's population will hit almost 4.5 million. That's bigger than Copenhagen, Montreal, Munich and Singapore - and they all have metros.
"And, if we want the first metro train to leave the station by 2030, we have to begin work on a business case and fund that in the next budget period which includes forward estimates to 2015.
"Major transport infrastructure projects take time to plan and construct. 13 years ago we committed to our Busway network. Today we've made great progress.
"The south-east Busway is done. The Northern Busway is almost half complete and three-quarters of the Eastern Busway is still to come.
"So, if rapid metro is to part of our transport future, the time to talk about it is now."
19 November 2009
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