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Old 22nd November 2006, 20:31   #6
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I don't want such bullshit in my country. Full stop.
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Old 22nd November 2006, 20:43   #7
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Such machines are impossible based on the 2nd law of thermodynamics. This dates back to 8th century where people tried to invent such machines (Perpetual motion machines) which outputs energy without any external input, but they gave up shortly.
Scientifically, 2nd law of thermodynamics has not been disproved up to date.
If they claim that they disproved the 2nd law, then all the science in the 18th and 19th century have to be rewritten!

Poor guys...
Thermodynamics... One of my favorite subjects... Thermodynamics has serious ambiguities at higher levels, such as the issue of entropy or unavailibility. This kind of subjects are worked on not only by engineers, but also by a lot of basic science people and philosophers. What it means is that there are many high level issues in thermodynamics, which could only be explained philosophically to meet the application needs... Nobody knows what is going on, but they could formulate it so that they can imitate the events there and have engineering results.
So, there are many issues which are not proven at all related to energy issues, so actually not everything has to be disproven (since they are not proven anyways) to bring up a new concept.
Nevertheless, I don't think that this company actually managed to change the estabilished formulas of thermodynamics, although they aren't proven. It wouldn't be such a small issue... "oh, I changed the second law of thermodynamics yesterday" ehuehue... I am almost 100% sure about it that this company does not have any idea what they are talking about. This makes them even funnier... They most probably have such a poor engineering knowledge that they actually receive external energy somehow (even if their machine works), but do not realize it... hahaha... poor guys...
Yet, what if it is true? Twilight zone...
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I don't want such bullshit in my country. Full stop.
I would be satisfied even if can make our own cars... Forget about changing the world at the most fundamental level, energy... hahaha...
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Old 23rd November 2006, 20:07   #9
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muamma suruyor?irlandalilar once mi davrandi?

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Icy fazla ciddiye aliyon bunu, palavra bunlar! Bak yolda biri durdurup "kardes elimde son model erke var, senin icin 500 YTL" filan derse almaya kalkma! Olsaydi gavur coktan kesfetmis olurdu, bilirsin gavur yapar!
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