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Old 2nd March 2007, 22:12   #11
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Istanbul ve diger Marmara' ni vergisi MArmara' da kalirsa, Ankara dahil dogu iyice coker.

Guneydogu batar.
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BIz aristokrasiyi Fatih doneminde yedigimizden, bizim eyaletlerimiz, daha cok Roma imparatorlugu eyaletleri gibi, yani yeni fethedilen topraklarin, "provinced" lestirilmesi yani Osmanlilastirilmasi diyeyim.

Osmanli ve Roma Imparatorluklarinin eyalet sistemi, Pers Imparatorlugu Satraplik sistemi ile, gunumuz Almanya' si, ABD' si sistemleri ayni degildir. Birincisi, YUkarida saydigim imparatorluklarin hukuk sistemleri merkezidir (Dini azinliklarin kendi dini ic-hukuk sistemi vardir).

Merkeziyet kotu sey degildir, yuk dagitmaz bunu bilin, bilakis adam akilli oldu mu yuku dagitir.

Elma ile armut karismasin, biz Almanya, ABD degiliz. Yani ise yarar yaramaz tartismasindan ziyade, bizim devlet yapimiza bu ters. Almanya tarzi eyalet sistemleri, ya da INgiliz tarzi Shire sistemi, aristokrasi (duk seviyesi) yonetimleridir.
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Old 2nd March 2007, 22:22   #13
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Yeni fethedilen yerler eyaletlestiriliyor, tabi zamanla bu eyaletlerin osmanlilasanlari ana govdeye katiliyor:



Ama bu eyaletler, ABD eyaletleri gibi birbirinden bagimsiz sistemlere sahip eyaletler degil.
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vergiler eyaletlerde kalırsa sıçar tabi
ama glir vergisi zart zurt gibi ana kalemler federal hükümete
kdv falan da erel hükümetlere bırakılır mesela

hoş türkiyede toplanan vergilein %70i dolayl vergiler
bu durumda tam tersi olması gerekiyo hehe

yani önce vergi sisteminin bi düzeltilmesi lazım

zaten Osmanlının da böle gelişip büyümesinin ve güçlü bir devlet olmasının temel nedeni süper bir vergi sisteminin olmasıydı di mi
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Ben diyecegimi dedim, herseyden evvel ekonomik bir bolunmusluk TR de mumkun degildir, cunku TR asimetrik bir ulkedir. Marmara ve digerleri olarak bile bir eyalet sistemi kurulamaz. Istanbul, Kocaeli, Bursa yi cikarin TR den, mahvolur geri kalani.

Aslinda keske hani simulasyon icabi, 10 yil uygulansa bu sistem (eyaletler arasi goc yasagi ile birlikte) de, guneydogu bir ac kalsa, ondan sonra bir bakin bir ortalikta DTP falan var mi...
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